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batutz
08.03.27, 03:02 PM
ive encountered lots of issues on singing with vibrato..most of them say its very nice to hear when singing with vibrato..some dont like it, others had different views about it..for me its good to have vibrato but dont sing the entire song with vibrato just some of the lines especially sustains.. :)

theusII
08.03.28, 10:46 AM
Hi,

Vibrato is among the most misunderstood issue in the realm of singing. To make it clear, vibrato is not something you can purposely do, that is if you are shaking your voice for dramatic purpose and mistaken it for a vibrato.

Vibrato is a component of the vocal timbre. It makes the sound ringing in vibrancy to make the voice travel. It is a sign of a well produced voice supported by an even air flow, open resonators and vocal chord proper oscillation. False vibrato is a damaging technique because it will teach your muscle to become uncontrollable. Shaking sound is not vibrato, it can be a tremolo or a wobble, both are detrimental and most likely to ruin the voice and the song itself.

Best of luck!

Rolan

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ionolec
08.03.28, 05:27 PM
Parang mahirap atang pigilan ang vibrato. Sabi ng sa kantang Salamat Musika. Kapag umapaw ang kaluluwa't tinig ay sadyang nanginginig.

allen lucas
08.03.28, 06:31 PM
vibrato is good pag solo singer ka lang pero pag sa choir hindi cya applicable kse may chances na masintunado yung kanta nyo kse d naman kyong lahat. medyo mahirap alisin ang vibrato sa choir pa nakasanayan na pero sa pamamagitan ng praktis at tamang pagturo ng trainor maaalis din yung vibrato sa pagkanta sa choir.

gabborns
08.03.28, 11:12 PM
Vibrato is among the most misunderstood issue in the realm of singing. To make it clear, vibrato is not something you can purposely do, that is if you are shaking your voice for dramatic purpose and mistaken it for a vibrato.

Vibrato is a component of the vocal timbre. It makes the sound ringing in vibrancy to make the voice travel. It is a sign of a well produced voice supported by an even air flow, open resonators and vocal chord proper oscillation. False vibrato is a damaging technique because it will teach your muscle to become uncontrollable. Shaking sound is not vibrato, it can be a tremolo or a wobble, both are detrimental and most likely to ruin the voice and the song itself.

mahce
08.03.29, 02:56 AM
depende po sa paggamit ng vibrato, kung solo ok lang pero kung kasama ang buong choir sa pagkanta kailangan mai-blend ang boses kasi kung minsan ay nangingibabaw ang boses na may vibrato

theusII
08.03.29, 01:07 PM
The issue of vibrato in a singing tone causes many problems for singers. Although all singers are concerned with their vibratos, choral singing often gives rise to vibrato problems, and many of these problems occur in choral singing. Many choral directors want that elusive thing, “blend,” and worry that, when their singers give them a tone with vibrato, the blend will be ruined. Clearly, they equate vibrato with tremolo or wobble. In so doing, they are blaming the wrong thing. A vibratoless tone resembles a boy soprano’s tone, where absence of vibrato is natural. Singers are confused when someone tells them to take the vibrato “out.” This is because they do not believe that they are “putting” vibrato “in.” It is a natural component of adult singing.

Many choral directors believe that a soft dynamic level will obliterate the vibrato and deliver “blend.” In this belief they are wrong. Vibrato will still be there in pianissimo, just not as audible. More importantly, expressive possibilities are severely limited when only soft singing is permitted, and vocal fatigue is a sure result. Dale Moore, noted pedagogue, has this to say: “I would rather have a soprano of potentially operatic caliber serving as part of a cheerleading squad than have her singing in a group where the tonal ideal for a soprano is the sound of a tired English choirboy.” Paul Kiesgen, celebrated teacher of voice and vocal pedagogy, echoes Moore: “Loud singing with inadequate vocal technique can be harmful....Poorly produced soft singing, however, can be equally harmful....For most voice students, soft singing is the last skill mastered and one of the most difficult to acquire.”

Often choir directors justify their dislike of vibrato in a tone by citing a belief that singers of early music never used it. Before we accept the premise that singers in Renaissance and other early music styles used no vibrato we must ask several salient questions as far as authenticity is concern.

Let us use the choral director’s reasoning and attitudes in order to clarify our own. One wonders whether choral directors have ever noticed that orchestral conductors never ask their instrumentalists to “synchronize their vibratos?” Observing, one can see that the string players are actually moving their hands in various rhythms to achieve their vibratos. The movements are far from uniform among the players, although the resulting tone is in accordance. Nor do orchestral conductors consider whether or not there should be vibrato in their instrumentalists’ tone. It is viewed as a necessary component of a beautiful tone. So should it be with a singing tone.

Choral music is a vocal music. The most efficient vocalism, whether form the solo singer or from the chorister, produces the most aesthetically pleasing vocal timbre. There is an history of conflict between the training of the solo voice and what is expected of a singer in the choral ensemble. Such conflict need not exist.

An inherent problem for the solo singers is that early choral literature was not intended for solo voices. Most liturgical music was written to be performed not in concert halls but in chapel, abbeys, and cathedral. However, the vocal demands of the early literature are not modest; its performers were clearly musicians of great skill.

The large choral works of the late 18th and 19th centuries generally call for a quartet soloist. Nevertheless, the vocal demands for the chorister, who are so often amateur singers, may equal the task assigned to the solo voices. It is clear that the tessitura requirements for soprano chorister in music like Beethoven Ninth Symphony go beyond what is requested in many operatic roles. Nonetheless, it is not the symphonic choral literature that causes the chief difficulty for solo singers, since in that repertory the singer is called to produce an energized vocal sound to match the orchestral sonority. It is the traditional choral literature, in which voices are expected to “blend” at all tessitura and dynamic levels, that most young solo voices find problematic.

Further, there is a problem for singers with relatively high skills in vocalism when they are mixed in ensembles with singers of limited vocal resources. A fallacious assumption about the dangers of choral singing states that vocal abuse results from attempting to sing as loudly as the person next to you “ in order to hear yourself.” In point of fact, the threat to vocal health in choral singing lies not on the decibel competition but in attempting to submerge the voice into the surrounding bland sound.

Each vocal instrument had its own unique timbre characteristics. The answer for choral conductor is not to make solo singers emulate the technical level of amateur voices but to work for a more efficient production from the less proficient singers. It is illogical for the choral conductor to demand one vocal quality from all categories of voices. Balancing voices is far better choral technique than is the unrealizable goal of trying to blend them.
A complete choral sound can be achieved only when the singers within the ensemble use their voices efficiently, if they do, vibrato is one major sign of this efficiency. It is the duty of the choir director to teach the chorister how to become efficient singers, so that they will profit from, and not injured by, the musical demands placed on them, and so that the quality of sound from the ensemble is of the highest possible order.


Hope this helps..

God bless us all!

Rolan
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theusII
08.03.29, 01:08 PM
The issue of vibrato in a singing tone causes many problems for singers. Although all singers are concerned with their vibratos, choral singing often gives rise to vibrato problems, and many of these problems occur in choral singing. Many choral directors want that elusive thing, “blend,” and worry that, when their singers give them a tone with vibrato, the blend will be ruined. Clearly, they equate vibrato with tremolo or wobble. In so doing, they are blaming the wrong thing. A vibratoless tone resembles a boy soprano’s tone, where absence of vibrato is natural. Singers are confused when someone tells them to take the vibrato “out.” This is because they do not believe that they are “putting” vibrato “in.” It is a natural component of adult singing.

Many choral directors believe that a soft dynamic level will obliterate the vibrato and deliver “blend.” In this belief they are wrong. Vibrato will still be there in pianissimo, just not as audible. More importantly, expressive possibilities are severely limited when only soft singing is permitted, and vocal fatigue is a sure result. Dale Moore, noted pedagogue, has this to say: “I would rather have a soprano of potentially operatic caliber serving as part of a cheerleading squad than have her singing in a group where the tonal ideal for a soprano is the sound of a tired English choirboy.” Paul Kiesgen, celebrated teacher of voice and vocal pedagogy, echoes Moore: “Loud singing with inadequate vocal technique can be harmful....Poorly produced soft singing, however, can be equally harmful....For most voice students, soft singing is the last skill mastered and one of the most difficult to acquire.”

Often choir directors justify their dislike of vibrato in a tone by citing a belief that singers of early music never used it. Before we accept the premise that singers in Renaissance and other early music styles used no vibrato we must ask several salient questions as far as authenticity is concern.

Let us use the choral director’s reasoning and attitudes in order to clarify our own. One wonders whether choral directors have ever noticed that orchestral conductors never ask their instrumentalists to “synchronize their vibratos?” Observing, one can see that the string players are actually moving their hands in various rhythms to achieve their vibratos. The movements are far from uniform among the players, although the resulting tone is in accordance. Nor do orchestral conductors consider whether or not there should be vibrato in their instrumentalists’ tone. It is viewed as a necessary component of a beautiful tone. So should it be with a singing tone.

Choral music is a vocal music. The most efficient vocalism, whether form the solo singer or from the chorister, produces the most aesthetically pleasing vocal timbre. There is an history of conflict between the training of the solo voice and what is expected of a singer in the choral ensemble. Such conflict need not exist.

An inherent problem for the solo singers is that early choral literature was not intended for solo voices. Most liturgical music was written to be performed not in concert halls but in chapel, abbeys, and cathedral. However, the vocal demands of the early literature are not modest; its performers were clearly musicians of great skill.

The large choral works of the late 18th and 19th centuries generally call for a quartet soloist. Nevertheless, the vocal demands for the chorister, who are so often amateur singers, may equal the task assigned to the solo voices. It is clear that the tessitura requirements for soprano chorister in music like Beethoven Ninth Symphony go beyond what is requested in many operatic roles. Nonetheless, it is not the symphonic choral literature that causes the chief difficulty for solo singers, since in that repertory the singer is called to produce an energized vocal sound to match the orchestral sonority. It is the traditional choral literature, in which voices are expected to “blend” at all tessitura and dynamic levels, that most young solo voices find problematic.

Further, there is a problem for singers with relatively high skills in vocalism when they are mixed in ensembles with singers of limited vocal resources. A fallacious assumption about the dangers of choral singing states that vocal abuse results from attempting to sing as loudly as the person next to you “ in order to hear yourself.” In point of fact, the threat to vocal health in choral singing lies not on the decibel competition but in attempting to submerge the voice into the surrounding bland sound.

Each vocal instrument had its own unique timbre characteristics. The answer for choral conductor is not to make solo singers emulate the technical level of amateur voices but to work for a more efficient production from the less proficient singers. It is illogical for the choral conductor to demand one vocal quality from all categories of voices. Balancing voices is far better choral technique than is the unrealizable goal of trying to blend them.
A complete choral sound can be achieved only when the singers within the ensemble use their voices efficiently, if they do, vibrato is one major sign of this efficiency. It is the duty of the choir director to teach the chorister how to become efficient singers, so that they will profit from, and not injured by, the musical demands placed on them, and so that the quality of sound from the ensemble is of the highest possible order.


Hope this helps..

God bless us all!

Rolan
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brochelito
08.03.29, 01:35 PM
Hi

There is a natural vibrato in our voice using our throat, one technique is we should not try to stop it because it will make our throat tense. We control it using the breathing. Often it is a slacking of the diaphragm (especially as one gets older) that causes the beating effect of the vibrato

God bless us all!

Chelito

blastedcleric
08.04.04, 12:41 PM
I admire original vibrato's, not the "shakers" Kasi, malalaman yung tunay sa hindi kapag narinig mo yung boses, then suddenly, u feel goosebumps and shivers, and u say, "OMG!" Kung baga, may hagod at hatak...malamig at masarap...I admire people like that...I think Ms. Lea Salonga does that...:D

batutz
08.04.08, 04:52 PM
thanks for the replies guys! its very informative.. ive learned a lot talaga...Godbless!

pidjong
08.04.12, 10:55 PM
sana may control yung singer sa vibrato nya. ako wala msyado vibrato, still working on controlling.

ryanestandarte
08.04.22, 12:56 PM
sana may control yung singer sa vibrato nya. ako wala msyado vibrato, still working on controlling.

Meron talaga. Actually, kahit sino naman e. I bet training and sana conscious yung singer na there are some songs na kailangan ng vibrator at merong hindi. :D

jash12per
08.04.22, 02:12 PM
Vibrato can be activated or deactivated by a singer any time he/she wants.. Ang kanta,specially kung solo pag walang vibrato, parang walang kabuhay buhay.. Pero depends parin sa kanta or style.. MOstly sa classical talaga ginagamitan ng vibrato..

thenonhacker
08.04.22, 08:25 PM
ive encountered lots of issues on singing with vibrato..most of them say its very nice to hear when singing with vibrato..some dont like it, others had different views about it..for me its good to have vibrato but dont sing the entire song with vibrato just some of the lines especially sustains.. :)


There are no absolutes here.

The trick is to listen to professionals. Try Gary V or Martin Nieverra. Even Regine Velasquez. Or Nonoy Zuniga. Then observe when they use Vibrato, or use No Vibrato.


What You'll Notice:


Even in the duration of just one song, they apply vibrato with moderation.


There are places they pick where they do Not use vibrato. Usually the dramatic parts.


There are sustained parts where they start with No Vibrato then seamlessly blend in Vibrato.


Or Vice-Versa of the above.

The Keys Are:

Never Overdo Vibrato.


Use proper judgment on when to use Vibrato, No Vibrato, or a Mix of Both.


If you're a Tenor Soloist like Pavarotti,
please feel free to apply Vibrato.

pochong
08.06.07, 08:12 AM
i'm also not good in controlling my vibrato. thanks sir rolan! i've learned much from you.

deathkill00008
08.06.07, 12:26 PM
wait... pero... yung ibang choir... like the Philippine Madrigal Singers... ma oobserve mo yung vibrato sa pagkanta nila.. kaya i think, efficient din siya sa pagkanta...

kasi pag napapakinggan ko sila... di ko rin mapigilan na ma imitate sa utak ko, na maganda rin yung effect ng vibrato sa choirs... (lalo na pag napapakinggan ko yung madz na kumakanta na may vibrato.. yung soprano nila... lalo na when hitting and sustaining high notes)

although pinagbawalan na ako ng choirmaster namin na gumamit ng vibrato...

yeah.. nakokontrol ko naman siya... pero opinion ko.. wag naman sana pagbawalan na mag vibrato yung singer.. kontrol na lang para hindi maging "OA" yung pag vibrato...

^^

meLanchoLic_
08.06.07, 02:20 PM
para saakin dapat nasa lugar ang pag gamit ng vibrato
kumbaga, depende sa kanta..
pag medyo classical ok, pero pag mga pop hmm.. ewan xD

pero may naecounter na ako na kahit anong pigil nya na d mag vibrato bises nya d na magawa
cguro dahil nasanay na..

jash12per
08.06.07, 02:22 PM
para saakin dapat nasa lugar ang pag gamit ng vibrato
kumbaga, depende sa kanta..
pag medyo classical ok, pero pag mga pop hmm.. ewan xD

pero may naecounter na ako na kahit anong pigil nya na d mag vibrato bises nya d na magawa
cguro dahil nasanay na..

siguro matanda na yun pag di niya mapigil.. hehe..

meLanchoLic_
08.06.08, 03:50 PM
teenager lng.. hehe
minsan nman tinatry ko pa pigilin nya
nagagwa nya sa umpisa pero pagpatapos na, nanginginig na.. wahaha

markjeff
08.06.10, 06:47 PM
ang alam kong common sa mga oldies e ung "tremolo" vibrato mejo bago na yan. :)

Bro. Oliver
08.06.11, 03:36 AM
We were always discouraged to use vibrato in the choir for uniformity in texture.

jash12per
08.06.11, 10:48 AM
Marami akong kilala na ang Vibrato nila ay parang GOat ang tunog.. hehe
:)

markjeff
08.06.11, 10:33 PM
paano ba nadedevelop ang vibrato?

Yna Suello
08.06.12, 09:08 AM
paano ba nadedevelop ang vibrato?

I remember nung bago lang ako sa choir, hanga ako sa anak nung president ng choir namin: mas bata pa sa akin (like 12 yrs old), marunong nang mag-vibrato. Tinanong ko yung president namin kung tinuturuan nya, at kung paano; gusto ko rin kasi matutong mag-vibrato. Sabi ng president namin, gawin lang.

Sinubukan ko. Noong una, yung vibrato na ginagawa ko ay "sadya". Kasabay ng pag-practice ng "diapraghm singing" (as opposed to throat-al or nasal), unti unti rin akong nasanay. Hanggang sa naging natural na lang siya. It actually helps with sustaining notes e. Hindi agad nauubos yung hangin. :)

Pero of course, do it in moderation. Medyo di na nakakatuwa kung bawat dulo ng nota ay may vibrato. Be aware na lang din siguro sa pagkanta ng may vibrato. Ask for feedback dun sa mga marurunong at sanay ng gawin yun para madevelop pa lalo. :)

jash12per
08.06.12, 10:40 AM
paano ba nadedevelop ang vibrato?

Try to imitate the sound of a serene.. or you can use wee and make a woble sound.. until your muscle memory will memorize it and pag tumagal pag naging habit na, parang natural nalang siya sa boses mo..:)

msselda
08.06.15, 02:08 AM
Sa choir namin di lumalabas ang vibrato...meron dating kasamahan kami na super ang lakas ng vibrato sabi nga ay umaaguy-oy ang boses nag stick-out ang boses nya sa choir..yon nga tulad ng mga nabanggit na dito pagsolo okey lang.

meLanchoLic_
08.06.23, 12:35 PM
here's a video of the tallis scholars (the choir who dont use vibrato)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4VoKso5ERI&feature=related

mas type kasi ng conductor nila ung walang vibrato, para maiba naman daw :P

centrunion
08.06.28, 06:27 AM
Any tips regarding minimizing or controlling vibrato? May mga member ako na sobra ang vibrato.

bingo
08.06.29, 01:09 AM
isa ito sa naging problema ng choir namin, masyadong nanginginig ang boses ng ibang members ...

theusII
08.06.29, 11:36 AM
Hi,

Vibrato is a normal component of the timbre when the voice is properly produced. It causes the voice to carry acoustically along side with the proper resonance. Often times, the shaking quality of the voice is mistaken as the vibrato where is fact it could be a tremolo or or a wobble which, both are, signs of unhealthy vocal production.

Richness of the voice comes when it is accompanied by a properly developed vibrato-which is not the shaking and undulation of the sound.

Cheers!

TheusII

james2009
09.12.09, 04:31 PM
We really try to avoid vibrato in our choir. We just use it for forte dynamics, depending on the song

Emerald
09.12.10, 09:10 AM
di gaanong ganun ka importante ang Vibrato.. Dynamics is the key po kahit la pong voicing if u apply cresendo and decresendo ganda pa rin pakinggan ang kanta

theusII
09.12.14, 01:22 PM
di gaanong ganun ka importante ang Vibrato.. Dynamics is the key po kahit la pong voicing if u apply cresendo and decresendo ganda pa rin pakinggan ang kanta

My apology if I will disagree with your opinion. Vibrato is very important to anyone who pursues this art seriously. The cultivation and spinning of the vibrato is the reason why the voice has the capacity to travel. The vocal cords functions by converting stream of air into sound and it does so by vibrating. If you said that vibrato is not important, then you are robbing your self- an inherent good capacity for good vocalism.

Cheers!!

theusII

anf kingbemie
09.12.16, 01:38 PM
napaganda po ng vibrato isa po itong importanteng part or kakayahan? sa pagkanta, pero sana ito ay nagagawa ng tama yun lang

Emerald
09.12.18, 10:51 AM
My apology if I will disagree with your opinion. Vibrato is very important to anyone who pursues this art seriously. The cultivation and spinning of the vibrato is the reason why the voice has the capacity to travel. The vocal cords functions by converting stream of air into sound and it does so by vibrating. If you said that vibrato is not important, then you are robbing your self- an inherent good capacity for good vocalism.

Cheers!!

theusII

ayos lang tol.. its your opinion

jash12per
09.12.22, 09:34 AM
Pag sinubukan kung pigilan ang vibrato ko, para ding akong nagpipigil sa boses which I found out na hindi maganda sa akin, based on my experience,, pero kung yung sobra sobrang vibrato naman, tingin ko sinasadya na ng singer yun,,

Emerald
09.12.22, 03:57 PM
oo nga kuya jash sama pakinggan nung mga sinasadya na mag.vibrato

deathkill00008
10.01.05, 01:20 PM
mas malambing para sa akin pakinggan ang mga kantang kinakanta with that of vibrato. Sometimes, mas nagpapaintense din ang vibrato sa mga parts na nagdedemand ng mas malakas na volume, at dun sa mga majestic parts. Minsan nag-aaway kami ng choirmaster namin dahil diyan, hehe. Ayaw daw niya ng mauga... pero he unconsciously doing that vibrato kapag kumakanta siya. ampude. haha.

Emerald
10.01.07, 01:14 PM
mas malambing para sa akin pakinggan ang mga kantang kinakanta with that of vibrato. Sometimes, mas nagpapaintense din ang vibrato sa mga parts na nagdedemand ng mas malakas na volume, at dun sa mga majestic parts. Minsan nag-aaway kami ng choirmaster namin dahil diyan, hehe. Ayaw daw niya ng mauga... pero he unconsciously doing that vibrato kapag kumakanta siya. ampude. haha.

oo kuya kung natural lang na lumalabas ang vibrato.. kasi ang iba pinipilit

knightdom
10.01.07, 01:15 PM
oo kuya kung natural lang na lumalabas ang vibrato.. kasi ang iba pinipilit

nahihirapan ako mag vibrato, kasi hindi naman ako na-train mag-vibrato eh kaya i agree, mahirap pag pinilit. masaya na ako sa natural falcetto. hehehe

Shottichi
10.01.07, 11:32 PM
mas maganda poh yung natural na lumalabas ang Vibrato I agree with knightdom and emerald mas maganda ang natural kasi para kang nangliligaw pakingan at mas nagkakaemotion ang kanta

knightdom
10.01.08, 01:16 AM
maganda ang vibrato if solo pero pag choir na, parang pangit unless lahat e vibrato kasi mag-stick out yung boses (sa tingin ko lang) edi parang may nakanta ng solo sa chord. yun lang (tama ba?)

Emerald
10.01.08, 11:09 AM
nahihirapan ako mag vibrato, kasi hindi naman ako na-train mag-vibrato eh kaya i agree, mahirap pag pinilit. masaya na ako sa natural falcetto. hehehe

falcetto is still the best for me lalo na when mataas na notes hehe... im good at falcetto rather than vibrato hehe

Shottichi
10.01.08, 02:24 PM
even if you are in falcetto it would still be good if you have vibrato but according to knightdom ,if you are in a choir it would be useless if ikaw lang mag isa ang nagvibrato:)

Emerald
10.01.11, 05:32 PM
that's the point.. kung vibrato ang isa dapat lahat may vibrato.. para isang boses parin ang output..

theusII
10.01.11, 06:08 PM
HI,

Some discussion of the vibrato needs to be made because this is one of the points at which voice teachers and choral directors may differ. A vibrato is an essential part of the life of the tone of a choral ensemble and of a good singer. A slow and wide vibrato is not acceptable in a good choral tone and should not be acceptable as a good solo tone either. The tremolo, or fast bleat, is also not desirable in either the soloist or choral group. A well-controlled tone with a pleasant vibrato should be acceptable to anyone.

Some problems seem to arise when a choral director rightfully desires a tone for stylistic purposes with a minimal vibrato, or occasionally, for an effect, without any vibrato. This is no different than the soloist who will want to minimize the vibrato or even use none at all, to sing a text describing, for example, a "stark, desolate place."

Real problems and legitimate ones are created by the choral director who constantly attempts to achieve a tone without any vibrato in all music, a so-called "straight tone". It used to be the case that certain, very successful choirs founded in the early 20th century sang with a straight tone. These choirs, for the most part, did not sing with a "ringing forte". Their tonal range was limited and there was very little variation in the tonal color; every piece tended to sound exactly the same, regardless of the style in which it was composed. This style originated with F. Melius Christiansen and the St. Olaf choir of the very early 1900's. It was modeled on the organ tone, a tone without an vibrato. Now, in the first part of the 21st century there is an attempt to imitate the sound that is characteristically produced by Eastern European choirs that, in addition to singing without vibrato, are also quite harsh in any attempt to sing forte or fortissimo. There are also compositional techniques being employed at the same time that include static, tone clusters that require less vibrato for careful intonation. Unfortunately some conductors carry this tone to an extreme. Some college singers may have enough maturity and sometimes enough vocal technique to be able to cope with such demands on an occasional basis but not on a continual basis. It is likely that voice teachers will react negatively to this type of singing and an unnecessary barrier will be drawn between voice teachers and choral conductors. The sound of the choir will not be warm and cannot carry the beauty of the singing voice. The young high school singer does not have the vocal technique to adjust to this type of singing. In his eagerness to please the director, he will go beyond the point that his technique and support will carry him without strain. There is no doubt that a quick blend can be obtained through the use of this straight tone. It creates the false security of having achieved something because it will not have the capabilities of singing a true forte without forcing the voice and it will not have the warmth to be interesting. It is a white tone with little capacity for beauty. When forced to a very loud volume it becomes harsh and generally has an edge to the sound.

Cheers!!!


TheusII

bubble1276
11.06.04, 02:47 PM
not advisable to do vibrato in choir singing..di magiging maganda ang tunog..and quite distracting to those listening.

mike kiddie
11.06.05, 11:15 PM
falcetto is the best option rather than vibrato.... pwede ding straight line lalo na xempre sa choir. siguro mas suited ang vibrato sa nagsosoloista.

knightdom
11.10.11, 08:01 PM
falcetto is the best option rather than vibrato.... pwede ding straight line lalo na xempre sa choir. siguro mas suited ang vibrato sa nagsosoloista.

i agree. pero kahit nga soloista di naman din minsan maganda mag-vibrato. depende na lang siguro sa piyesa. but yung stand ko same pa din, falcetto lahat. :)

Rancy Jun Micabani
11.10.12, 09:52 PM
I prefer in natural falcetto sa singing..yan po ang ini encouraged sa Diocese namin dito sa Tagbilaran, Bohol.. eh kasi pag vibrato, para atang solo contest ang dating.. ehhhhh

knightdom
11.10.13, 11:46 PM
Kasi if part ka ng choir dapat mag-blend ka sa boses ng iba mo pang kasama. At madalas kasi pag vibrato e stand out ka. Tapos syempre may mga matataas na notes na di maganda pakinggan pag vibrato. Di pati relaxed sa pandinig lalo na kung live. Natural na falcetto? Hmmm, interesting, hindi naman ata lahat meron nyan. Pasalamat na lang ako meron ako. :)

jash12per
11.11.10, 10:13 AM
Falsetto and Vibrato? parang magkaiba po un ah..

jeiter23
12.07.13, 11:57 AM
hehehehe 'yong vibrato di ko alam.. kung wen mag vibrato or did i used a vibrato voice...

cefelicitas
12.08.01, 02:57 PM
what if, for instance, may mga members na may vibrato? any pointers kung paano matimpla ang boses to become suitable for choral singing? would appreciate any help.

gdtrinos
12.08.27, 12:11 PM
As a music director, I prefer no vibrato, it make the sound one as in parang 1 lang kumakanta. But it still depends on the music. If it is needed then do it.

what if, for instance, may mga members na may vibrato? any pointers kung paano matimpla ang boses to become suitable for choral singing? would appreciate any help.

They have to learn how to control their vibrato. I tell my members no vibrato, and they do it right away.

Michael Jan
12.09.27, 08:55 PM
Marami po akong mga natutunan sa thread na 'to, lalo na po sa posts ni Mr. Theus II. I agree na hindi dapat pigilan ang paggamit ng vibrato sa choir dahil sign ito ng vocal efficiency. The problem lang po is kung ginagawang parang competition o solo concert 'yong pagkanta ng songs. Meron pong choir dito sa amin na ginagawa yan. 'Yong impression tuloy ng marami, e, nagyayabang sila... Nadidistract din 'yong community from internalizing the songs. ;)

gerald0614
13.05.28, 12:43 AM
maganda siya in some ways... lalo na kung solo parts... :)